By - LainLain
I work in construction and there are dozens of things slowly becoming the next asbestos.
PVC glues, floor adhesive, welding fumes, etc damage the brain and nervous system. We're starting to get some warnings on packaging, but the education and safety equipment just isn't there.
Tile and stone shops with dust collection, doing wet cutting, everyone wearing respirators and everyone still gets cancer.
Post 9/11, steel protective coatings like mono-kote stated getting used more and being required in some cases. It makes super fine dust when disturbed, drilled through, removed to anchor things, etc. Even after a day wearing all your PPE you'll have a burning sore throat and a cough.
Not to mention the mental health and substance abuse crisis slowly raging on in the background.
So here's a funny story. I'm a chemist and me and my chemist buddies get together and talk shit. One chemist I know working for a large company developed a new type of coating to be used by autobody shops. He formulated it specifically to use safer solvents simply because of the known toxic effects of the older stuff. Well guess what! The autobody shops sent the new formulation back because it "smelled bad and not as nice as the older stuff". Well yes, nice smelling solvents generally cause cancer. The new formulation smelled different and probably worse but was safer, but they had none of it.
Also 'size' of particle of substance makes a difference ...
A chunk of glass... A window... A pane of glass..? Non toxic..(in the conventional sense)
But.... grind that substance into a powder, and guess what?.. Some inert substances becomes 'toxic' in the human body/damaging at a different scale if you happen to have inhaled/consumed it....
it makes your lungs bleed and is not able to be removed...
(asbestos dust...bad... Asbestos in solid form.. Not so bad)
When the Twin Towers collapsed on 9/11, just imagine the (perhaps) hundreds of different types of pulverized particles flying through the air in the aftermath. There had to be finely powdered concrete, glass, metal, asbestos and plastic particles in there. Also think of all the toxic materials you'll find in an average office: copier and printer toners, solvents, inks, correction fluids, cleaning supplies (chemicals galore!) and god only knows what else. I think there may have even been a dental office or two in the WTC so they likely had X-ray machines which I suppose might have had some substance such as cobalt. So not only was all this stuff thrown into the atmosphere by the initial collapses, the continual fires that burned for days afterward threw up more toxic smoke.
Yup, this is why Jon Stewart had to advocate for the first responders. They were getting shafted on the healthcare, and the government just wanted them to succumb to a slow death. Most of the first responders had slowly died off in the ten years since 9/11.
Shop Owners: And how does this cancer affect my payroll next week?
Everyone: dies of cancer.
Shop owner: nobody wants to work anymore!
If you offered more cancer, you’d keep better workers.
Or: This stuff costs 5c more than the old stuff, I can't afford it.
I can just picture the person sending the return letter bug-eyed with silver all around their mouth.
Jim, you're just taking that car through the wash...relax
*Sprays and inhales*
This, I worked at a railyard repairing rail cars and the complete disregard for the fumes and dust produced from welding and cutting torches was unnerving. They provided basic like white masks but no one used them, if you did everyone, even the foreman, would tease you about it. Took me three years to finally get a filter for when welding in small spaces and the safety guy was reluctant when another shop on the property had them standard for years. I remember going home and cleaning pure black out if my nose and tasting metal hours after work.
I don't regret walking away.
Yup, worked in metal fabrication shops for 8 years, we used to call the black soot in our noses the black cocaine. Aside from the older guys, no one in my shops would wear the flimsy n95s, not that they helped much but if you looked at how black they got after a day at work you'd be thankful it at least filtered that much dust. I worked in a shop where they told a guy he couldn't wear is own personal respirator cause he needed approval and be medically cleared by the company to wear it. The younger badasses would even try to weld and smoke at the same time. Ironically enough welding was a big reason I quit smoking, didn't need to be inhaling two forms of cancer.
The only job my dad ever quit outright was a place doing housing fixtures, and was so toxic apparently he was puking his guts out every day. The place actively disdained safety equipment and you had to buy your own "if you were a pussy about it." He tried to tough it out for about a week before finally quitting.
Apparently the previous guy in that position *died* at like 40 from all the toxic shit. I'm so happy my dad quit that place even if he had to ask for his old job back from his crappy boss.
Dying young to own the pansies, fantastic.
Maybe a little specific to my trade but welding on stainless steel without a respirator. Hexavalent Chromium is produced in the fumes (which can be colorless and not resemble smoke). It is believed that once introduced introduced in the blood stream the molecules will deposit into neurons in the brain and can cause early onset of brain diseases like alzheimers.
Stainless steel to welders is like asbestos to construction workers.
Normalizing chronic lack of sleep, and "compensating" with coffee.
It’s just anecdotal but I noticed my “allergies” start acting up when I start going short on sleep a few days in a row.
Of course they act up at regular normal times but whenever I’ve gone a day or two with 3-4 hours of sleep each day it’s almost guaranteed I’ll be sneezing soon no matter the time of year
Is this a personal attack or something?
Sleep deprivation. More and more studies are confirming how detrimental sleep deprivation is to our health.
Stick to an exercise routine and no one bats an eye. Stick to a sleep routine and you're called grandpa.
Dude I never realized this until my daughter was born. She broke me like a stallion. First few months I coasted through on my normal shitty sleep schedule PLUS her steady interruptions. Once she started sleeping through the night my schedule became hers. Clock hits 8 I’m yawning and looking for bed, whereas 8 used to be kickoff for my evening hah.
So true. I had to become a demi-grandpa to learn this
Just the floating head of a grandpa with gems for eyes?
I’m 30 now and spent the first 29 years of my life with absolutely horrible sleep habits. Because as a teenager or high schooler or dumb college kid I could party the night away, sleep for three hours, and still be at 8am class feeling like shit but whatever that’s what energy drinks are for.
Just in my late twenties did I start to actually realize how much harm I’ve been doing to myself. My mental health took a nosedive and my stupid ass was finally like “ok ok fine I’ll try sleeping properly.”
Game changer. Life is so much easier now and I don’t feel like groggy shit all the time. But I am legit worried about what prolonged effects I’ve done to my brain with so many years of not taking sleep seriously. Every time I see another headline that reads something along the lines of “prolonged sleep deprivation potentially linked to high risk of Alzheimer’s” I get a pit in my stomach.
I went to high school with a girl who used tanning beds and she had a cancer scare at 16, she had like 4 different moles removed and biopsied. She told our class that her doctor told her it was okay for her to continue using tanning beds. No one believed her doctor said that but she did keep tanning after the fact. She’s in her late 20s now and looks super leathery and wrinkly.
I went to school with a girl who tanned all the time. When we graduated at 18, she was leathery. I last saw her when we were 25-ish, and she looked 40, easily. She was also a pretty heavy smoker.
Did she looked/sound like the “something about mary” landlady?
I was visualising this[https://iili.io/5rOMpp.jpg](https://iili.io/5rOMpp.jpg)
100% her Doctor did not tell her that.
She didn't want to give up her thing and needed to justify it by lying about what the Doctor said.
Every Doctor particularly ones that deal with skin cancer 100% know tanning beds are horrible.
Just one indoor tanning session can increase the risk of developing skin cancer (melanoma by 20%, squamous cell carcinoma by 67%, and basal cell carcinoma by 29%)
Tanning beds are insane and they make you look like a 10 year old leather boot if used regularly.
If you want to look young and beautiful for as long as possible, your number one skin product should have a decent spf and wear a hat with a brim.
> 100% her Doctor did not tell her that.
My guess is that the doctor's response was something like "using tanning beds will greatly increase your chance of cancer" and the person's mind translated that to "well, the doctor didn't explicitly say to *not* use tanning beds".
I was told by 2 doctors that I could use a tanning bed. That being said I have a skin condition that does improve with sun exposure and I was without insurance and couldn’t afford the treatments at the time.
They definitely told me I could do it as an absolute last resort and that it’s the one and only time they would ever even suggest it. I could see the pain on their face saying it to me lol
Yeah or sometimes they go “doctor will it for sure kill me if I use tanning beds?”
Doctor: “well... no not for sure-”
Pt: “aha! Doctors approved ok thanks bye”
>your number one skin product should have a decent spf and wear a hat with a brim.
Brb, going shopping for hatted sunblock.
Are they even still widespread? Nearly all the parlors by me have shut down, and the ones left always look dead.
I’m from a small town in a rural area. They’re everywhere and everyone still uses them. It’s wild.
We have them in TEXAS. There's so much sun here, you can't walk your car without getting a tan.
I'm sure you meant 'walk to your car' but I'm choosing to read it as written, as if you put a little leash and bell on your car and take it for a stroll
they are crazy popular with a specific type of guy/gal in the southern states. it makes me internally weep every time i see some 16yo girl walking around with her mom and they are the same shade of burnt ass boots. idk how someone could do that to their kid. i used a tanning bed ONCE for my senior prom bcs that was the norm, and my mom was super hesitant and told me i shouldn’t do it often. but then sadly, my mom told me instead i should put on coconut oil and tan naturally, aka deep fry myself 😂 ahhh the south
already banned in aus
U literally live in a tanning bed
That's like banning electric freezers in Antarctica. "No problem, just put it outside"
In Alaska, they use freezers and fridges to stop food from getting too cold.
Edit, ok, now questioning whether this is true or not. I could've sworn I watched a documentary where they mentioned this once.
True-ish, but they aren't running as a freezer anymore.
We do this in Canada, use an old broken freezer with a tiny heater inside to store things in the shed that shouldn't freeze. A broken freezer is a free, well insulated box.
Protip: A small, incandescent light bulb (5-10 watts) will generate enough heat inside a chest freezer to act as a very energy efficient heater.
I have a friend in Alaska who will just find stuff she forgot about among the snow on her porch as it thaws every spring.
Like finding a $20 in an old jacket pocket, but better because you can eat it.
I wish I'd find $20. It's getting cold and I'm wearing coats again for the first time and I've only found last years reusable covid masks in my pockets. =(
Lmao using a tanning bed in Australia is like watering your flowers in the rain.
Omg - so 10 years ago, I wanted to try tanning so I wouldn't be so pasty for my wedding. All summer I was super careful to not get burned/tan lines, since I had a sleeveless dress. I only tanned a little in the beds. My very first appointment, there was another customer waiting and JESUS CHRIST this woman was tanned so hard it looked like she changed races. Her skin was wrinkled and leathery and her age was undeterminable - somewhere between 35-60. I've heard of tanning addictions and I can understand why - the few times I did tan, I felt super relaxed and anxiety free after. It really did feel good. But holy crap, that woman was a neon warning sign for me to be careful. Walking skin cancer.
I work serving the radiation oncology field. You are probably the most correct answer here.
Edit: For people asking advice, I don't do radiation oncology. I just do work for people who do radiation oncology, so I don't know much follow up. It's just that they make it really clear that tanning beds are bad.
Tbh, I don't think even they know all the nuances. They just happen to have some for people who use tanning beds getting cancer. I was at Astro last month, and there was a ton of excitement about the success of "flash therapy", but a lot of confusion as to why its helpful instead of harmful.
Buying water in small containers. Just saw a piece on how Paris has free water fountains with high-quality water (and some fountains with sparkling water) all around the city.
They tried to put in water fountains in my town, people vandalized them to the point none of them worked within a month. People suck
Every year the drinking fountains in the parks in my city get filled up with sand by the first few weeks of summer, rendering them unusable for the rest of the season. It’s incredibly annoying.
That sucks. I feel like we've lost the sense of community necessary for a society to have nice things. That type of thing only works if people actually give a shit about their neighbors and community.
But maybe I'm overgeneralizing. I think most people are good people who wouldn't vandalize a water fountain like that. But all it takes is one person to ruin it for everyone else.
I used to be a highschool teacher. We had installed VGA cables on our desks. We just connected that cable to our laptop to use the classroom's projector.
Kids would arrive earlier and use a key or something hard to move around the cable pins until they broke.
It was often that I had to call someone from maintenance to install another cable, but by then we had lost 30 minutes.
They just broke things for the hell of it? Or to slow down class?
Sometimes they do it just to be jerks. I had a brand new pencil sharpener installed on the wall years back that some kid decided to put gum into within the week. It never worked right again.
As someone who used to be a shitty teenager, I can assure you some teenagers are just that shitty…
In the year 2000 my town amalgamated with a nearby city and a bunch of other towns, eventually they cut funding for my smaller town communities events, we used to have 5-6/year
20 years later now and all sense of community has eroded.
Worst part is we had a long history of managing funds really well, had high quality things like snow removal, roads were pretty much immaculate, we had nice planters and parks everywhere and now all of that has gone to shit
well you see I don't use the parks so its not fair for me to have to pay taxes for things I'm not using. Let the people who want the parks pay for the park. It's unamerican to make everyone pay for things only a few use.
Anyway I'm going to the park now
I literally saw that as an argument against updating and enlarging our parks department. It’s responsible for all the youth sports, after school programs, the high school sports teams used their fields and courts. Yet dozens of people that enjoy other aspects of the parks department argued that since they didn’t have kids, it wasn’t fair for their taxes going to the upgrades and whatnot. But these same people are the first ones at the festivals and free movies in the parks and everything.
I don't have kids and I'd be okay paying for parks. Because, you know, I was a kid once who enjoyed those kinds of things. People are dumb.
And ultimately kids that have those experiences may be better adjusted and healthier which has widespread impacts on society that those that don't use parks still benefit from. I try to think of tax usage very holistically.
Exactly. These kids growing up well adjusted and happy means were going to have functional adults who will in turn contribute to society and thatbaggevts everyone!
"I'm too fucking stupid to read so let's stop funding libraries"
As someone who works in local government,
Have you called/reported the malfunction?
Generally speaking, we don't check everything every day. But if someone points out a problem, we tend to get it fixed pretty quickly. It's a matter of, if no one tells us its broken, we don't know to fix it
Shit like this makes me so angry
Me too. It was really nice having them when they worked
Really all the Italian cities.
But Rome has public drinking fountains that are works of art.
We call them “nasoni”, big noses for their shape
Kurzgesagt made the point that we managed to invent this cheap, last forever material, which is great! And then we use it one time and throw it away. Which is terrible and incredibly dumb.
We've done practically irreparable damage to the planet and the bodies of our children in under a century, and we haven't even discovered all of the potential problems associated with it yet. It's fun to think about.
EDIT: I dropped my /s at the end there, and yes, the planet will be fine(?) eventually(?). I hope everyone else'll be too
There's a lot of stuff that we make with plastic that can just as easily be made with bamboo, hemp or other organic things. Things like baskets, textiles and low strength cordage (or high strength cordage in certain applications), kitchen utensils, disposable cutlery, takeout containers, the list goes on. I've started seeing a trend at places like the dollar store where a lot of the cheap, semi-disposable stuff that is typically made of plastic is being made of bamboo, which is heartening
Printers, in their current state, not like bad ass 3d one’s, but just your standard copy, scan, and paper printer. I work in IT and it always boggles my mind that we can do precise surgery on a grape, go to the moon, and countless other feats, but we can’t make a useful reliable printer. Over reaction? Maybe, but like man they suck.
Edit: thank you all for the laughs, and awards:), I was actually working with a tech from xerox on a fudged up printer while reading most of these😂
I saw on a Twitter a while ago some guy joke: "While Rage Against The Machine never specified what sort of machine they were raging against, I'm quite sure it was a printer."
It blows my mind on the daily how shitty these products are. Like HP damn near requires their app to operate it through WiFi. It’s a hit or miss if it actually wants to print. I’ve played out the Office Space scene in my head with this printer multiple times.
New Windows update caused most of my buddies company's Brother printers to spontaniously error (still ongoing).
The fix, restart the file and if that doesn't work, restart printer spool thingy in services.
IT ended up just writing a script named "before you call IT because of the printer click this"
Purposefully breeding dogs with smashed in faces like English Bulldogs that can't breathe properly. They're so misshapen that most must be delivered via Caesarian section.
Even my rabbit (Netherland Dwarf, adopted from a shelter) has a few breathing problems from his adorably round head. Poor little guy, especially for a species that can’t breathe through their mouths.
wow! really, rabbits can't breathe through their mouth? TIL!
well, at least they don't risk chocking on their own fucking saliva or water everyday like my dumb ass does, but I'd be scared to know I'd die if my nose was closed for one reason or another.
Rabbits normally almost exclusively should breathe through their nose. When it can't or doesn't it's usually cause for concern
Edit: which is what you said.. bedtime for me...
As the owner of a pug I am both offended and in agreement with this. Until I actually lived with her, I had no idea how cruel it was to create a creature who cannot breathe properly. I had no idea how bad their breathing was until I lived with one. I thought (as most do) that it was adorable how they snored and snorted. Yes, she’s absolutely, ridiculously adorable, and I love her to bits, but at what cost to her quality of life? Even the surgery to (maybe) improve her breathing is highly risky for the very reason she would need it In the first place, not to mention the expense of it.
We meet people every day who say they love her and want a pug and I tell them all to reconsider and why.
Edit spelling and added a bit
Sugar in everything
Using plastics everywhere
Unsustainable farming practices
We really need a privacy revolution. It's ridiculous how much we've let private companies invade our personal lives, all under the guise of marketing and apathy.
Also just general privacy. People over share WAY too much of their lives to complete strangers
People get legitimately offended if you DON’T want to share every aspect of your life. In the Midwest people call it being nice and interested in you when they ask you for information you’re not offering. I call it being fucking nosey.
the thing is, people just don't understand that marketing is simply propaganda and crowd control, and that it's easy to use the same tools to sell you politics as products.
I find the fact that ad algorithms on Facebook and YouTube never actually show me things I want or would be interested in reassuring, in teh sense I'm clearly not giving them useful data on my habits.
> algorithms... never actually show me things I want
This really does make you wonder. It's baffling huge trillion dollar empires are built on targeted advertising but the best they can do is 3 months of hot water heater ads after I already bought one, on top of that the hot water heaters they are suggestions is not a household unit like I already bought but some shitty propane thing for... outdoor... camping I guess.
And that's the BEST, most relevant, ads they can produce. The rest are just absurd garbage.
Almost 90% of the banner ads I see on the web are for products that I just purchased, and that a person only buys once or twice a decade. Never small things that I might consider, big-ticket items that I won’t need again for at least 5 years if not much longer.
Ooowwww *$%! My hand
Am I touching something?... \*BLEEEEP\* HOT HOTHOT HOTHOTHOT
Soy Loco por los cornballs
Everyone’s laughing and riding and cornholing except Buster.
What if you're loco por los cornballs?
Mother of God! Every damn time!
Cornballing piece of bleep
She's got this low center of gravity. I'm telling you, you can't knock her over. They call her "the wall."
I'm pretty sure I can knock her over.
Is she funny?
Social media, especially for children.
Edit. To clarify, as I'm getting lots of replies to the effect of "social media will never disappear". I'm not saying that.
Obviously it won't disappear but *how* we interact with it, *who* we allow unrestricted access to it, and *how much* access we give it to our lives can definitely change - and if it does, people will look back on our current era and shudder.
I have a Facebook friend that posts about her kids constantly. Including details of her oldest son’s mental health struggles, physical limitations to control himself, etc. I understand it’s therapeutic for her to share and she likes to “teach” others. But I can’t help but wonder if her son will be embarrassed, ashamed, or angry some day for her for sharing such private medical information with the world, without his permission.
I used to post my kids on social media but have stopped doing so within the last two years, and subsequently deleted a few platforms. My kids didn't give me permission to post them nor would they be too happy about it in a few years when they're able to have their own accounts.
I tend to say that if people want to share their children, a group chat or something like a photo app for only approved people would be ideal.
I'm really glad that I grew up before social media. I don't like my picture being on anything as an adult. I would be pissed if I was plastered all over the web as a kid without knowing what that entailed.
I've been meaning to work out a plan with my girlfriend for how we'll manage pictures of any children we may have. I particularly don't want their photos or private information on anything until they're old enough to have some kind of informed consent around their early teens.
My hope is that social media still exists, but with a more developed sense of norms. I'm *kind of* optimistic about this.
The way I figure, I've had a Facebook profile since the start. That's still barely over 15 years ago. And having the internet in the literal palm of most of our hands may be just a bit younger. That's not a lot of time.
I feel like we broadly just don't know what's been thrust into our laps, like giving a 7-year-old a sports car. Trends popped up and generally speaking, many of us blindly followed. When Facebook introduced the status update that started with, "(Name) is....", I balked initially, but soon there I was mindlessly sending out updates, "is... driving across the state".
My hope is that after enough time (hopefully less than 50 years), we'll have experienced enough to develop a sort of acceptable calibration. I imagine it's going to take a couple of generational roll-overs.
As an elementary school teacher, I already see advancements in *some* categories but not others. On the plus side, most of my kids already know more about finding reliable sources, recognizing clickbait, and not blindly trusting social media posts than some older members of my own family. But on the flipside, many already have Tik Tok accounts that can serve as a vessel for whatever they wish (including a pretty significant cyber bullying incident earlier this year).
My son is 13 and when he was around 7 or 8 he would lose it if you tried to take his picture. On school picture day I had to talk him out of his room to come downstairs. The issue? He didnt want mom to take his picture and put it on facebook.
He was the first generation to have their entire lives posted about online without any consent given. He didn't realize what it was but even at 8 he was upset about not having that agency over his own life. Even now hell make his mom promise not to post any pics online...... Which she promptly ignores.
Facebook is already outdated. Hes on twitch and discord now. And im sure those will be abandoned for something new in a couple years.
People think I'm crazy when I say I won't put photos of my kids on socials.
I think people are crazy trusting the world with photos of their children.
This is me as well! Family members get so mad because “they have no idea what is going in our lives”. Ummm, how about you pick up the phone and ask or stop by and hang out, instead of scrolling through FB or IG all day.
My younger sister has some Google Photo albums that she puts pictures of her kids and the family members that wants to, can get access.
I think that is reasonable compromise, because I do really want to see cute pictures of her kids as I don't get to see them that often irl.
Unfortunately I have a "Facebook Boomer" relative. She is more obsessed with social media than my tween and teenager nieces.
Her visits with us are focused on:
A) Taking a picture of our kids with her so she can post them
B) Going to local restaurant and attractions so she can post them.
C) Scrolling on Facebook and trying to gossip with us about stuff she reads about our relatives and my hometown.
The phone is never out of her hand during her visits. No real playing with our kids, reading with them, or talking about their lives. They just kinda exist so she can brag about them. I'm not even angry, it's just really sad.
We tell all family friends and relatives that we don’t post our kids faces on social media. If they can’t respect that and still post it, we ask they take it down and no longer allow them to take pictures of our children. It was an uphill battle with older relatives but because we repeated it often and made them take down pictures, they now fully respect our stance.
They're more interested in a parasocial relationship than an actual relationship.
Jesus fucking Christ this. We don’t all need to know the minutia of everyone’s lives whom we’ve ever met.
Hell I went through my facebook recently and cut my friend list down to 60. Literally down to family and friends that I could actually see around my home town on a daily basis.
Damn mom should really not ignore those kinds of requests.
A relationship with their son built on honesty, integrity and respect
... or a guaranteed 40+ likes on Facebook?
My ex wife’s mom is like this. No I will not make my child smile because YOU want likes on Facebook. She doesn’t like taking pictures so why yell at her because she doesn’t want to.
I hate when my dad posts my photos online, I'm fucking 16, I will post them myself if I want but please just ask
My daughter has me refuse to allow her school to take pics of her so it doesn't end up online. The school sends out a slip every year asking for permission.
I had to go through a whole thing because she doesn't want her picture in the school yearbook. The school made this very, very difficult -- pretending like it was an impossible ask.
She says she doesn't want people she doesn't care for looking at it in 20 years and talking about her without her around. And I don't blame her.
Jokes on me, my high school fucked up and forgot to put my picture in it, instead using the same picture of one student for at least 10 people.
Energy drinks and high levels of sugar
Edit: I posted this and then went to bed, I woke up to so many comments and up votes holy shit XD
Edit: All right since y'all feel like causing me to have a damn aneurysm with your lack of understanding of how to actually read a sentence let me correct it here cuz I'm sick of responding to individual people that apparently have no idea how to read a sentence. These were two different statements "energy drinks AND high levels of sugar" not "high levels of sugar IN energy drinks" the words and, and in are not the same word. So to the over 10 people that felt the need to comment "BUT WHAT ABOUT ENERGY DRINKS WITH NO SUGAR" learn how to read before you go around reading things on the internet, ok?
Edit: I wasn't saying that energy drinks are worse than coffee so y'all are arguing down in the comments that is not what I was saying. The reason I put energy drinks is not for some random energy drink hate cult hysteria that y'all are assuming. I put energy drinks because I've seen how harshly they can affect my co-workers who drink them chronically. I've seen coworkers that can't keep up their pace drink a ton of energy drinks and end up looking like they're going to have heart attacks just so that they can keep pace at work. No matter whether or not you think energy drinks are worse than coffee drinking a ton of them at work to the point where you're shaking is not physically healthy and at my work this happens quite frequently especially with young people. So I was basically alluding to chronic energy drink use and constantly consuming high levels of sugar are two things that are very unhealthy that in the future people are going to realize just like people realize smoking was bad for you. I'm not saying drinking a Red Bull is like taking a hit of meth. I'm saying that energy drinks are usually highly abused because they're not seen as something you need to approach with caution.
Yea theres been some states that want to make energy drinks 18+ maybe some aready have that law in place im not sure but i am for it.
Where I'm from, most shops won't sell it to you unless you're 16. I was 19 years old and was asked for ID for buying a small 250ml energy drink.
it was a urban legend when i was still in elementary school that redbull had alcohol and stuff for "adults"
I just thought they were beer cause of the commercials...something about them feel like beer ads
I miss Sparks. Shit was 4Loko before 4Loko existed in its deadliest form
You’re the only person I know who remembers Sparks, I think the taste was levels above 4 loko, Sparks was my shit
People confusing "I think X is a bad idea" with "Society will agree with me that X is a bad idea."
Yeah like why am I seeing so many "staring screens all day" or "internet addiction"? The way I see it it will be even more common.
Most of these are far too optimistic. There was concern about television screens in the 60s - now we carry screens in our pocket. The workweek was 40 hours in the 60s and weekends and holidays were respected - now we’re connected 24/7. Etcetera.
Hell, we even basically replaced smoking with sugars and fast food. You need something to keep the masses sated. The next thing will probably be sugars, then someone will come up with an electrical brain stimulant that’ll make you feel great and we’ll ignore the data about those side effects for a hundred years.
> The workweek was 40 hours in the 60s and weekends and holidays were respected - now we’re connected 24/7.
Really crazy how quickly and eagerly that wall was demolished with the rise of cell phones. Just yesterday my boss called me while I'm cooking dinner, basically to think out loud and tell me something that could've easily been an email, a text, or just addressed the next day.
And now YOU are the weird one if you don't pick up the call.
Fuck that. I would not pick that up. You have to show people your boundaries otherwise they'll never respect them. Every time you pick up that damn phone, he will expect it more and more. Have to nip it.
I literally just let my work phone ring to voicemail a few minutes ago. I'm on lunch and off the clock. I'll check it at 1:02 pm when I clock back in.
> And now YOU are the weird one if you don't pick up the call.
I don't worry about that at all. If he wants to hire someone else who will answer, let him.
Don’t pick up the fucking call.
The insane sugar intake of developed nations. Like seriously the stuff is in everything since the 70s, when the sugar lobbying companies got the US to demonize animal fats, and fat in general. Another thing is the replacing of said animal fats with highly processed vegetable fats. Like, if you make your cooking oil the same way that crude oil is turned to gasoline (with lots of harsh chemicals), then it's probably not a healthy food.
On a side note, I remember being told in ninth grade health class that fats which are liquid at room temperature are healthier than ones which are solid, because the solid ones would clog up your arteries. It didn't occur to me until years later, that butter melts in your hand, thus making it nonsensical to believe it wouldn't remain a liquid inside the body as well.
Edit: I highly recommend the YouTube channel "What I've Learned" for nuanced analysis of diet and other science related stuff
I remember being taught as a young chemist in 1982 that cholesterol was something people made themselves and that it was really hard to link dietary cholesterol to serum cholesterol. We asked about the media and were told that in essence real chemists knew about the BS out there but had no way to fight it.
The magazine of the American Chemical Society, “Chemical and Engineering News” has a back page where we’d all laugh at the lunatic stuff you’d see on Regis or the Today Show. “Chemical Free” being a favorite. It’s not possible unless you are buying a box of vacuum.
What scientists didn’t do was fight disinformation hard enough. By the time we realized we were being asked by government to do things that aren’t possible or even sensible.
Soon everyone knew science was bad and Dr Oz was an expert. Science was the only field where people felt free to tell you they new better than your decade of school study and multiple decades of experience because they’d seen a YouTube video.
How we fix it, I do not know.
There really should be some agency that actually enforces truth in labeling. Have them cover everything - food, non-prescription medicine, everything.
"Chemical-free" as you say, cannot be a thing. All that supplement "Supports health!" had better actually be proven. No more of that TicTac "sugar free" nonsense.
The first time I started really paying attention to ingredients was when Trans Fat started getting labeled on everything. Once I learned that if something had less than a certain (low) amount of Trans Fat in it, the manufacturer could put “0 Trans Fat” on the packaging.
I was like, “whoah…. how is that allowed…”
In the US, the healthcare system where, in essence, employers decide which doctors their employees can see, no one knows how much they’ll need to pay until they get the bill, and the bills are so exorbitant that people go bankrupt.
Honestly tying *any* benefit to an employer should be viewed with skepticism at this point.
Why is my retirement fund tied to my employer? Pensions made sense when we worked the same job 30 years, now I have to roll my 401(k) over or hold a bunch of scattered ones? Just let me designate a bank account as my retirement account and have an employer deposit to it if they want.
Why is my healthcare tied to my employer? This isn't actually "choice" in a meaningful sense, I am just locked into a particular private company instead of a particular public option.
The reason this all got tangled up goes back to WW2 (or as some have pointed out, even earlier). We really should look at untangling it.
This is one of the biggest reasons why corporate interests are against universal healthcare. Losing your health insurance (among other benefits) is one of the biggest reasons people won’t or can’t leave their jobs. I’d imagine there would be a huge exodus of workers from various fields if they didn’t have to stay in a shitty job they hate simply because they can’t get medical services if they leave.
Workers have much more freedom and bargaining power if their health doesn’t rely on an employer
>This is one of the biggest reasons why corporate interests are against universal healthcare.
Small businesses, at least, should be all for separating health insurance from employment. Dealing with negotiating a competitive plan for your employees, doing the administration, figuring out how to make a decent employer/employee cost split and smooth over jumps in the rate... It's a colossal headache.
Oh yeah for sure, I feel like when people say “corporate interests” it refers to big businesses
Before. Blue cross started in the 20s and then it exploded as an employer benefit during the depression.
Giving children 100% pure, uncut, internet.
[Edit] I grew up in the 90s - 00s. I grew up with internet, but it isn't the same as today. I grew up with the lite beer of internet, kids today have moonshine.
[Re-edit]And yes, I know about faces of death and rotten. AOL and Chatrooms. You and you friends would huddle around a computer and spend a 30min waiting for a page to load full of crappy polaroid photos and shitty VHS recordings of stuff to play for 5 seconds then start buffering. Then someone would think they heard the parents and close it all down. We didn't have 5G access to high definition death and porn in our pocket whenever we wanted ... There's a definite difference.
[Reddit] I agree in some aspects that the older internet was more of a wild west, a lot of people are saying that back in the day you would click on something and you never knew what you were going to get. But that just proves my point, society and the net has changed. Back in the day you had to trick most people into watching that kind of stuff. You had to log onto Napster trying to download Metallica videos, and then find out it's a video of a chick getting double-teamed by horses. Nowadays, the internet is safer, so you don't stumble upon that stuff by accident. But that's because they don't need to trick people anymore. All they have to do is make the videos and people will seek them out.
11 year olds out here seeing ISIS beheading videos
Edit: I meant 11 year old *children* are seeing ISIS videos. But from these replies I guess younger than that.
anyone who was on 4chan 15 years ago has accidentally (or purposefully) seen at least one beheading video or something just as bad
Yeah I've definitely seen some traumatizing shit on there by accident. I had underestimated the actual depravity of that site, I thought it was just boomers over-exaggerating. I don't even wanna type what it was that bothered me because I'm just tryna keep it in the brain vault until it disappears completely.
I went through a short morbid curiosity phase years ago, and I will probably still suffer from it for a long time.
The desire to "unsee" things is real.
When my kids are old enough, people will probably think I'm a psycho for how I handle it with them, but sorry, I'll do whatever I can to keep the depths of human evil and suffering from being burned into my children's minds forever, thank you.
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I remember not having a computer so I looked up "naked girl pics" or something like that on the browser of a Nintendo DSi.
Same, but on the Nintendo Wii browser. I was a brazen little fuck browsing Brazzers in the family room with a thumb constantly hovering on the reset button in case someone walked through. Had some close calls...
Promptly asked for a PSP for a lil more privacy, hahaha.
“Brazen lil fuck browsing Brazzers” it’s got a nice ring to it. Lyrical, in fact.
That's laudable sentiment but nothing you can do is going to stop someone at their school from showing them the latest atrocity posted on the internet.
Better to try and give them the tools to understand that just because it's on the internet for anyone to see doesn't mean it's not real evil being done to real people, and that it shouldn't be casualized or even fetishised the way it is by people who get too used to it.
What attracts kids to things like that (and worse) is the lure of the forbidden and taboo, as I'm sure you well know from your own experiences. Being unreasonably restrictive without providing context and understanding is an easy way to fall into the trap of making that kind of thing even more attractive to a kid.
I would say not only the forbidden and taboo, seeing this horrible things releases “interesting” brain chemicals and elicit new and strange sensations, and at a young age the brain is not developed enough to be too empathetic. I too saw terrible things at a young age that I wish I hadn’t seen but at that age it was a rush.
My mom was offended about Squid game and that something as violent as that was available on the internet. ‘It should be banned!’ Was her first reaction. I told her that there are videos on the internet, unfiltered, that are way worse with a lot more violence…
First comment I made to my partner after my discussion was: She really doesn’t have a f*cking clue that there are videos anyone can see of beheadings and such on the internet…
At least squid game had artistic merit/a moral lesson… different than just random vids
Can I interest you in everything and anything all of the time?
Apathy’s a tragedy and boredom is a crime
As a Xennial, I have to say, seeing how the internet took over everyone's life has been... interesting.
I still remember the first time I was on a bus with a Blackberry that had GTalk, remarking to my mom (who was on a computer) that I was now fully connected all the time.
I didn't realize how monumental this was, though. To me the internet was a thing you logged onto, did some stuff, and logged off of. It was a separate world.
And everything I had drilled into my head ended up being false. Don't use your realname online? Ha ha ha, never mind that, here's Facebook and LinkedIn. Don't use your CC online? Nah, I'm gonna use it to order a stranger to drive me somewhere.
The early internet had some pretty horrible behavior patterns created by anonymity, but the anonymity also made it separate from real life. Sure you could get lots of mean stuff, but usually it was *internet drama* of people united by common interest. Drama in the Gundam Wing Slashfic Community or some IRC roleplaying channel was just... you know... drama.
Now we've attached everything to real people, but they act the way we did when we were all anonymous.
Ten years ago I thought "We need a Mrs Manners for the internet, some kind of etiquette lessons for emails and such" but that's done and gone with.
Oh and the porn is free, and so so so so much easier to get to.
> And everything I had drilled into my head ended up being false. Don't use your realname online? Ha ha ha, never mind that, here's Facebook and LinkedIn. Don't use your CC online? Nah, I'm gonna use it to order a stranger to drive me somewhere.
The internet has kinda split into two pieces, that aren't really as separated as they should be. The pseudonymous internet is still alive and well -- that's how most of use use Reddit. And I think that's a Good Thing.
There's also a place for the denonymous Internet. For everything from stores, to businesses, to people, having a web presence *is* useful. Historically, people have gone to great lengths and expense to advertise their existence and what you should know about them -- that's suddenly easy.
Problem, of course, is that the two space are atop each other, and feel the same to use. Despite that, acceptable behavior for posting a public profile, versus for arguing about how racist the most recent Disney movie is, are drastically different.
The Credit Card thing was more or less solved by a combination of encryption, PCI standards (PCI SSC was only put together in 2006!) for how that data must be handled, consumer protection anti-fraud laws, and 3rd party payment processors. 20 years ago, putting a CC# into a website *was* generally a somewhat poor idea.
I agree with you - the pseudonymous internet didn't go away. But you get places where they blend together. Twitter is probably the most common example. The blending of pseudonymous behavior, children and adults to intermix without realizing it, and real world connections when kids talk to friends has not been great.
When I see people post racist rants on LinkedIn, it feels bizzare to me. Don't these people know anything you say under your real name could come back to haunt you twenty years from now?
Agreed that CC is generally safe now, I just got a kick out of thinking how much my family worries about it still even though they use the magnetic swipe on their card.
> The pseudonymous internet is still alive and well -- that's how most of use use Reddit.
This is exactly why I don't like when people lump reddit in with "Social Media". There is a difference between what reddit is, and what Facebook/Instagram are, and it's pretty big. But Reddit is kinda the last big vestige of what the internet used to be more like, 1996-2005-ish. That pool is getting smaller and smaller it seems.
Unfortunately, if you keep an eye on all the new "features" they're trying to push on "new" reddit, they're trying to do away with that little by little. The big corporate interests that own reddit now view the largely anonymous user base as a vast untapped treasure trove of data to mine and sell, so they're trying to push more towards Facebook/Insta/LinkedIn.
I remember the wild west days of the early net.
You’d go to a URL and who knows what would be there: porn, gore, flash games, maybe all 3? maybe find an IRC channel where you can buy eleventyseven different kinds of drugs from a guy named phil1977. I remember the flash games that had porn and gore in them, you’d be playin some new stick man shooter and BAM uncut footage of someone getting absolutely railed by some bbc adjacent to an African tire fire pedo execution.
yeah. kids really shouldn’t get access to the raw unmoderated internet. there’s stuff out there that even adults probably shouldn’t be looking at as liberally as it’s available.
And who knew what you were going to get when you downloaded that Korn/Limpbizkit/Metallica song on Napster.
Napster was amazing. It was after it got shut down all these really shitty p2p clients showed up like Kazaa
Five day/40 hour work weeks. It’s already starting to change in several countries and industries, hopefully it will be more widespread.
Company I worked for switched to 4 8s for a couple months, but some things didn't work out- so we went back to 5 8s with a Friday off a month. They are trying to figure out how make the 4 day work week work.
It was so much better!
Halfday Fridays are better. Pretty much nobody wants to be working past 1 or 2pm on a Friday.
Man, my wife & I started a cleaning business after I lost my job because of Covid. We work probably 20-25 hours a week and we’re making about $70,000 a year. And I have ZERO desire to work any more. It’s glorious.
Edit; didn’t think so many people would be so curious. But to answer some questions that’s 70k between us and net income. We live in a small to medium city that has a pretty low cost of living so that goes a really long way. And we’re just not people that want a lot of stuff. We clean houses during the day and banks in the evening. Cleaning has incredibly low overhead, mostly rags, spray bottles, cleaning solution, etc. and a vacuum cleaner per year or so. It’s incredibly low stress work, just finding the accounts is the challenging part.
Own my own business as well. With the exception of my busy season (8-9 weeks), I work 20 hours a week and will make that easily too. It’s the life!
nice, mind sharing what business?
Two asses? I'm in.
This is a good answer. It's going to blow people's minds that we used to put on clothes we would never wear and gather in the same building just to all sit and do work on computers at the same time. And then fight each other in traffic to get back home, where we could have been doing our work the whole time.
I hope it will have a positive environment effect suddenly killing commuting traffic on a large scale.
Along with being in the office full time! Humans were never meant to be sitting in a cubicle under fluorescent lights all day,
This isn't too farfetched I think. I just graduated and started working about a year ago completely online before changing to a job where they wanted me to be at the office at the beginning to get acquainted. I'm really struggling with taking an hour and some twice a day to get to the office to sit around and do the same job I was doing back home because it just feels so pointless.
Commute time, as well as getting ready in the morning time, adds up to a big chunk of time for a lot of people.
Getting that time back during COVID has really changed the game, I think. Even getting back an extra hour a day can be a huge shift for people.
I’m a nanny, so I can’t do my job remotely, but I know a lot of people who can and it has really impacted their quality of life in a big way.
Remote work saves time and money even at 50% remote. And it saves so so so much if you can do it 100% remote.
And it's not like the benefits only go to remote workers. Do you have a job that requires you to be in a city core? Would you like to fight less people in cars going to the same space? Do you want less competition for houses with a good commute? All that happens when jobs that can be made remote are made remote.
And companies will adapt or perish. I can name 5 other accountants who quit (nothing else lined up, all were hired again shortly after) when they requested that they come back full-time. In 2020, they proved that they could do their work from home, got it done, stayed on task. And now were required to come back, commute, chop an hour a day off their free time?! Nah. I am already seeing so many companies be "short-staffed" by their own doing, and I think things will massively shift
I'd have to say Chemo. Anyone who has gone through Chemo or knows a loved one who has knows how brutal is. Sadly it's the best "treatment" against cancer we have right now, but hopefully in the future it will not be needed.
It really depends.
Someone I know has a very bad form of cancer (life expectancy after diagnosis is like 12 months) and his wellbeing massively increased after taking chemo.
Many newer forms of chemo have by far less side effects.
I don’t know I agree with this one. Chemo *is* very difficult to go through, but it also is definitely beneficial. This is more one of those things where… his is where science is at. I think people in the future will look back on current day chemo through the lense of “this is what they had at the time, look how it’s improved.” It’s kinda like how, prior to the x-ray machine, people had to dig around by hand for bullets, or feel by hand for broken bones. We don’t look at it poorly or think they were doing anything wrong, we just recognize how far science has come.
Injecting fillers into every part of your face and lips
The bbl is so dangerous and It's being promoted like is nothing, pretty much all plastic surgery is being heavily promoted by plataforms like tiktok or instagram.